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Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:13:59 -
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Hi Everyone,
So after skimming through the dev blogs something really caught my eye, and it has to do with the new gameplay mechanics CCP wants to introduce for Citadels and Starbases and stuff.
I read through them, but found it all to be a lot to take in and sort of confusing.
Long story short, are POS's, as they are now, being totally removed from the game and replaced by these new structures? When I say POS I mean the player-owned bases the for forcefield bubbles that require fuel and can have other stuff anchored around them.
Thanks for clarifying!! |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.05.23 11:37:10 -
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Ah I see, thanks for clarifying!
I wonder how these new structures and their mechanics are going to affect small-scale manufacturers/indy groups consisting of only 1 or 2 players like myself in times of a war and how the offlining/repackaging/deploying mechanics will work.
A RL example of how the current POS mechanics saved my hide: I got wardecced by a griefer/wardeccer corp a month ago and immediately after finding out, tore down and stored my POS during the 24hr grace period. To my amusement, every other corp in my system got systematically wardecced by the same corp, and sure enough a fleet of 20+ Apocs showed up and began wiping out all of the other corps' POS's one-by-one until nearly two thirds of all the POS's in my home system were wiped out. I seemed to be the only smart person other than the wardeccer corp in that system that day  Let's just say I saved myself quite a bit of ISK
Being in a tiny one-man corp consisting of a handful of Alts with absolutely no ability to defend against something like a fleet of POS-bashing Apocs, I used brains over brawn. Will the new structure mechanics still allow this? I ask because if they don't, they seem to me to only favour larger corps/alliances with the manpower to defend them, while little corps like myself who relied on the current POS mechanics to make some money have just lost out on a bunch of industry options available. |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.05.24 10:07:26 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Cyborg Girl86 wrote:I ask because if they don't, they seem to me to only favour larger corps/alliances with the manpower to defend them, while little corps like myself who relied on the current POS mechanics to make some money have just lost out on a bunch of industry options available. It is going to be pretty much this. Many small hs indy corps primary line of defense are POS structure hitpoints and a low profile. This is not going to work anymore. You will have to adapt.
Kind of disappointing if you ask me 
Still, its all just speculation and heresay for the time being. I did read somewhere, whether it was a forum post or a dev blog on the subject i can't recall, that the new citadels/starbases/whateverthef***theircallednow will no longer have to be anchored around a moon. Instead they can be anchored absolutely anywhere in the system and bookmarked.
This is kind of cool as theoretically you could hop in a BS, warp to any random location and MJD like 2 dozen times, bookmark the spot and then setup shop in a little corner of space only you know about 
I'd really like to see more info about the wardec mechanics and the new mechanics for setting up and tearing them down. Maybe I'll get lucky and my strategy of "Pack up shop and move like some kind of space Gypsy" will still work *fingers crossed*
Further still...f*** it if hs indy ops in a tiny HS corp are no longer feasible. My main gets offers to go back to Null every second day. I might just go back to Null and leave everything my corp has and my alts in my current home system, in-effect turning my once efficient HS Indy corp into a glorified offshore bank staffed by 3 beautiful ladies (myself included)  |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.05.24 10:08:14 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:Cyborg Girl86 wrote:I ask because if they don't, they seem to me to only favour larger corps/alliances with the manpower to defend them, while little corps like myself who relied on the current POS mechanics to make some money have just lost out on a bunch of industry options available. It is going to be pretty much this. Many small hs indy corps primary line of defense are POS structure hitpoints and a low profile. This is not going to work anymore. You will have to adapt. Agreed..I only use my own POS for refining and compression so it only goes online now and then. But i'm still gonna be gutted when I have to lose it. Like you, I'm not sure how it's going to end up, but it does seem to give everything to the big boys. It is a kick in the teeth from CCP to small corps on the face of it.
^Also This^ |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.24 21:01:54 -
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Kashadin wrote:Then play the multilayer part of this MMO. Get friends or even hire someone to fight the war for you. Helpful video for those who can't be arsed to interact to defend their stuff.
Honestly I'd probably, actually more than likely, just go back to Null 
I've lived in Null before, it isn't so bad actually. I only went back to highsec to try my hand at operating my own manufacturing business, which was going really well until I found out about all of this  |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:01:13 -
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Ivant Sumboodi wrote:Okay so basically the emerging idea here is that
1) new POSs will be 'deadlier' for the bashers, yet have less hp
2) when successfully bashed, your blueprints will fall into an Only For Me box
3) the difference here is that once your tower is popped, you just have to physically grab your Only For Me box at some point in time
4) no one is 100% sure if there is still the 24h griefer dec grace period
Yep, I think its safe to say we've arrived at that so far |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.25 00:56:26 -
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Quote:These new POSs will be popped as easily as the old ones and maybe even cost a newbie more money, will be popped by the same griefers, but now the griefers actually get to hawk over your box and laugh while you try to retrieve it over and over.
It's for this reason why I'm anxious to see if the 24hr griefer dec grace period will still be there after the changes, and on top of that if it will still be possible to use the deactivate>unanchor>store safely in an NPC station method of avoiding such a thing from happening to the structures in the first place |
Cyborg Girl86
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.05.25 01:20:28 -
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That's what I'm worried about 
Worst case scenario I convert my corp into nothing more than an entity to store all my stuff and alts and move my main back to Null. Not the ideal, but at least I have a backup plan |
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